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Information on old cut tropes

I was looking for the original discussions that removed the old, now-defunct pages Big, Badass Wolf and Everything's Worse with Wolves, which now serve as redirects for Wolf Tropes and were replaced in function by the current pages Savage Wolves, Noble Wolf, and The Big Bad Wolf, the latter having been in existence before the rest were cut.

The basic history here is as follows:

• These tropes existed and now they don't. They are not listed in Renamed Tropes, Split Tropes, or any of the Trope Epitaph pages, this in particular being the main thing that I'm trying to fix here.
• Problem is that to do this I would like to access the threads where these decisions were made, both to know the precise rationale that they had and to link them, since entries on Split Tropes link the relevant discussion threads.
• The cutting and reworking process seems to have taken place in 2013. The actual cutting took place in November.
• SW's creation edit describes it as having been "agreed on in the badass cleanup thread". This isn't linked to and I've been having trouble tracking it down in the forums. Noble Wolf has no comment, linked or otherwise.
• Everything's Worse with Wolves was originally made into a redirect to Wolf Tropes. Big, Badass Wolf was instead made into a disambiguation page for Canis Major, The Big Bad Wolf, Our Werewolves Are Different, Noble Wolf, Savage Wolves, and Wolf Man. In February 2014, a user named Catbert, who has not been active on-site since 2016, changed both to redirects to Wolf Tropes, which is what they are at present. No discussion or rationale was given for these last edits.

The main thing that I've been trying to achieve here is to find what forum or thread the original discussion took place on so that I can add the tropes to the relevant cut/renamed/split trope lists. However, this proved to be a little more complicated than I expected it to be. I've tried using both the forum search and Google to track the threads down to no particular success. I'm making this query to ask if anybody here was involved in that discussion or at least knows how to track it down so I can do that and move on with my life.

(I'm also kind of tempted to revert the 2014 edits to the original redirect/disambig status on the principle of the thing, but, well, it's been ten years, so it's not exactly super urgent.)